1. How To Adjustments Atlas At 250 Manual

Hi there.first time poster, looking for some expert opinion. Some background first. I got a do-all white quail at the end of 2010, to dip my toes into clay shooting.after using it for almost two years i've come to two conclusions.and those are a) I love clay shooting and I want to take it to the next level, i.e build an olympic standard skeet range at my farm, b) it wont be on the back of the do-all white quail, while it was fun to get me started.

It requires constant tweaking to keep running well, and its an embarrassment when guests come over and it starts breaking clays, so I am looking to buy two new skeet machines, that are extremely reliable (club level reliability) and have zero clay breakage. In a perfect world I'd just order a $6k set of laporte machines + the $3k laporte tah85 pro (the 0.6s cycle time is a dream feature for me.the website claims that the 1st clay has not hit the ground when the 5th clay leaves the trap, havent seen this with my own eyeballs though) and call it a day. But in the real world the budget is between $2k and $3k.

So.I've been looking at Atlas AT50 and AT250 skeet sets. The options I'm weighing are as follows: 1. $3000 for 2 x Atlas AT250 Skeet Package 2. $1900 for 2 x Atlas AT50 Skeet package 3. $1600 Wobble AT50 + $1200 AT50 Open to other suggestions.including other brands as well as used options.as long as they can be made reliable after replacing parts. So the questions I have to the Atlas users are. Are the Atlas AT250 and AT50 reliable for my application.

My number one priority is gun club level reliability. Can they handle 2000 hands-free clay throws in a day reliably? The clay capacity is irrelevant to me if that is the only difference between the AT50 and AT250, I'll go with the AT50 then. What is the clay breakage frequency on these traps. What is the cycle time for these traps? The Atlas website states that the AT50 and AT250 have an extremely fast cycle time. Is it similar to the Laporte TAH85 PRO 0.6s cycle time, where if you keep on squeezing the release button it will throw 5 clays in 3 seconds.

What is the throw distance.the website doesn't say? Currently I have $2k burning a hole in my pocket, will need to wait a month or two to get $3k together, but i dont mind waiting to get the right package together. Your feedback would be deeply appreciated. 10 yrs ago i started shooting in the backyard with a set of do-all-yoself traps.

And like you started to look for better more reliable throwers. In my opinion do not take the steps upward. Take the elevator.

What do you think the resale value of your white quail is? Taking the steps will leave you frustrated and with equipment that is worth its weight in metal. Take your hard earned money and buy the best (coughPROMATICcough), even if that means waiting or buying just one trap for now. Between reliability and resale value it will save you time,money and stress.

Dear oregunner.thanks for the response.2000 clays is ridiculous and I should have been more clear. Most of the time when I shoot, it's me and my brother.max we'd shoot is a couple hundred maybe 300 clays.and that is only when that POS do-all is playing nice.usually it breaks all the clays for us. I could actually enter the do-all trap into competition and it'll win for breaking the most clays. Because I love to shoot clays, I want to practice for formal competition.and in that regard I was actually planning to set up a competition standard skeet. If I can pull it off.it would be the only skeet range within a hundred miles radius.and I know a bunch of people who'd want to come and try it out.l So one thing would lead to another.and we'd probably be having proper skeet competitions between 1020 people on my planned range. If that happens, my guess is 2 machines will have to throw maybe a 1000 clays each, in a day. While of course it won't happen very frequently, but maybe once in a couple a months or maybe even a quarter.

But I want something that will be able to handle that kind of usage. I got bit in the backside for not doing my homework before buying the white quail.just bought it after reading the amazon reviews.

So.if I can get decent traps within my budget.I'll wait on the bells and whistles.like the skeet controls.wobbler.voltage converter.magazine extender.etc. I hope I was able to clarify my chain of thought.please feel free to remind me that I'm an idiot and I know nothing.if that is the case. Is the throw distance and cycle time same on the at50 and at250? Last edited by on Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:24 am, edited 1 time in total. I shoot trap, skeet, and run the 5 Stand course at our club.

Setting up a regulation skeet range in your back yard is an ambitious plan. You need at least a platform for the high house, and I would go with a skeet controller, so you aren't dragging two cords around to each station.

How To Adjustments Atlas At 250 Manual

For about the same money, you could buy a few AT50s on carts, and set up a fun 5 Stand or mini Sporting course, that you could change around. Competition Skeet is not a growing sport in our area. I enjoy shooting it, but not enough to build a skeet range. Mark Mark (oregunner) See the bird, shoot the bird!

You're absolutely right about the skeet controls.but if holding back on the controls will get me a sweet machine i'm willing to take the pain for a little while.but that's why you're the expert and I'm the novice.I say silly things. Well the range is not at my house.it's going to be at the farm.the high and low houses along with the stations is going to cost me about 800 bucks to build.so it's not too bad.

I have all the equipment and tooling along with the necessary help for the construction.even loading clays. I own a Do-All and I did have brakage problems in the beginning.

I could not back off the spring enough so I added a small chain link. Problem solved works flawless now. I also just got and Atlas AT400 with the trailer and elect remote. Filled it to the top all ten.

Broke every bird. Seem to drop 2 birds on top of the other Unloaded it cleaned it and filled 1/2 full worked fine. Called Atlas and was told to adjust the spring on the rollers. The springs are maxed out an I only fill 3/4 seems to be fine. I haven't called them back yet.

Thanks for the tip claytbuster.I got lucky with promatic uk and they hooked me up with two ranger 8s manufactured in July.and used in only two competitions. I'm finally going to realise my dream of setting up an issf skeet range at my farm. Got a skeet radio release with the pair.but skipped the timer lights and loom, as it was out of my budget.however the gentleman at promatic did say that I could add it later on.it would be nice to finally figure out where i stand with respect to skill in issf skeet, and whether I can take it further or not. I would have bought the atlas, but thanks to Scott at Atlas, even though he's a sweet guy, he responded to my email in 15 days, by the time I got his email I had already placed my order with promatic, had he messaged me earlier I wouldnt even have gotten in touch with promatic.as I always thought promatic to be beyond my reach. To any one interested in any of the ATLAS line of clay target machines: Scott and his whole crew at Atlas are the very best to deal with and they will help in any way possible if/or when you have an issue or question.

We have the following machines at our club: 9-AT250's 3-AT400's 2-RTC's 2-AT50's We started over four years ago with the 2-AT50's and have been adding additional machines every year. I have no idea how many times I have called Atlas with questions and they ALWAYS figure out what I am trying to say and how to FIX the issue at hand. We're in Indiana and they're in Kansas. I have never met them in person but feel like I am calling a close friend with a question when I need some help. Our Club and I highly recommend ATLAS TRAPS for all your clay target needs. Sincerely PKW You can contact the Club for any additional information on our Atlas machines. We think they are perfect for our Club!

Dear PKW-Indiana What kind of issues have you had that needed a call to atlas for fixing? By this i mean, what are the main things that are likely to require maintenance or what parts are most vulnerable? I ask these questions because a backyard user can never get the kind of usage a club or commercial ground gets out of its clay traps, therefore the clubs are probably the first ones to expose a design flaw or a weakness in a machine. How many clays do you throw per day on average. If clay capacity is not an issue, are the at50 and at250 equal in performance? While the atlas website has a 2 machine wireless controller, how have you wired multiple atlas machines for a sporting clays or five stand setup?

Do you run your traps on 12v or 110v? If they run on 12v batteries how many throws do you get out of a battery charge? Which of your machines have a wobbler in them? Does the wobbler have an auto timer shutoff to conserve batteries?

Also is the wobbler truly random or can you read where it's going to throw next after shooting 20 or 30 clays. What are the features you like about the atlas traps, what are the things that annoy you? What would you like to improve on? Sorry to bombard you with so many questions, but you're the first forum member I've come across who's running a club entirely on atlas traps. Which is a big endorsement for atlas traps. Vagabond77, I appreciate your questions! My 'biggest' issue is not with any of the machines.

We have 'club members' that 'touch' when they shouldn't! I had a 'rabbit' (RTC) that was throwing the rabbit and breaking it on the ground. Rather than move the adjustments many times, I called and got first hand help.

Some one had pushed the carousel upright too much and it was throwing the rabbit hard into the ground. Problem fixed in 3 minutes and NO SWEAT!

I had an AT250 that kept breaking the bird when the arm was released. I didn't think to look straight down the arm to see a piece of target wedged right where the 'rubber' on the arm hit the bird. Removed that 'chip,' problem solved! I've had some springs break from normal wear and I called for replacements. They were always shipped ASAP. I don't believe there are any 'design' flaws.

The machines have always come to us 'ready'. It's when PEOPLE try to help that don't know what they are doing that will cause more problems. I just happen to be the one at our club that handles it.

Capacity is always an issue, We don't use the AT50's in places that they can't have birds added while we are shooting. One has 'standard' targets, the other has 'midi' targets. We place them for our 'fun shoots' where we can just add more birds as we walk by them. Our 'wiring' set up is unique; we have all of our machines controlled with 'wired' throw buttons. We do not have any 'wireless' controlled machines.

We do not have any 'wobble' machines and all of our machines are on 12 volt batteries. We have 110ac run throughout our entire course and each battery is on a 'trickle' charger. We never worry about our batteries. Well I would love to have all AT400 machines because of the speed and adjustability of the machine itself. 1984 kx 125 service manual. The AT250's throw birds plenty hard enough for most of us to MISS! But, we are a small club and we only buy what we can pay for at the moment! We have NO DEBT!!

We have two 4-H clubs and a Boy Scout troop that we help every year. It takes a lot of cooperation from lots of folks to keep us going.

I appreciate the fact that I can get on the phone with a problem or need for a part and know that I am going to be helped by on of three men that know these machines inside and out. Their goal has always been to get every machine back in service ASAP. Scott, Mike, and John have always been very friendly and most helpful, even when it wasn't any fault of an ATLAS machine. I hope this helps you and if there are any other questions, I'd be happy to answer those too. The best advice I can give you or anyone for that matter, is 'CALL ATLAS' and have one of these guys tell you what you want to know.

I promise you this, in nearly four years of dealing with Atlas Trap Company, I have never been misled! Sincerely, Paul.